From ralf at hemmecke.de  Mon Aug  1 16:06:32 2011
From: ralf at hemmecke.de (Ralf Hemmecke)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:06:32 +0200
Subject: [Aldor-l] Fwd: Free Aldor
Message-ID: <4E370748.6020304@hemmecke.de>

Dear Stephen,

May I ask you again to consider my mail from September 2009?

Thank you
Ralf

PS: The Aldor SVN repository is not working.
ping https://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca
ping: unknown host https://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca

On 09/24/2009 11:38 PM, Ralf HEMMECKE wrote:
> Dear Stephen, dear Mike

> as you might know, I have built some scripts in FriCAS (a fork of
> Axiom) (http://fricas.sourceforge.net/) in order to build libaxiom.al
> from scratch. Unfortunately, I can neither distribute libaxiom.al nor
> some necessary .as files under the same license as FriCAS (mBSD),
> since this code is only available under the Aldor Public License 2.0.
>
> I hereby kindly ask you to release the following files under a BSD
> license (same as for the Axiom code).
>
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axiom.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axextend.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axlit.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/stub.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/minimach.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/axllib/src/lang.as
>
> Furthermore, in order to distribute a precompiled libaxiom.al together
> with FriCAS, it would be helpful to also release
>
> $(ALDORROOT)/lib/libfoam.al(runtime.ao)
>
> under a BSD license. For 'runtime.ao', also releasing the sources
> under a BSD license would be good, but I explicitly ask for the
> release of the .ao format.
>
> Please help the FriCAS project and don't let Aldor die.
>
> Has meanwhile anything been done to release all of the Aldor
> compiler+library sources under a GPL-compatible license?
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Yours sincerely
> Ralf Hemmecke


From bill.page at newsynthesis.org  Wed Aug  3 21:10:57 2011
From: bill.page at newsynthesis.org (Bill Page)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:10:57 -0400
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
Message-ID: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library.  I
believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
was Debian) two years ago.

---

Also, has anyone successfully built Aldor from Pippijn van
Steenhoven's source at
http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/home/projects/lang/aldor ?  I tried to do
this but could not find sufficient documentation on the build process.
I asked Pippijn for more details but I haven't heard from him yet.
Pippijn are you here?


From ralf at hemmecke.de  Thu Aug  4 01:56:46 2011
From: ralf at hemmecke.de (Ralf Hemmecke)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:56:46 +0200
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
In-Reply-To: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>

On 08/04/2011 03:10 AM, Bill Page wrote:
> Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
> sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
> Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
> the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
> memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
> during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library.  I
> believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
> starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
> did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
> was Debian) two years ago.

I remember somebody else running into this problem. Me?
Oh yes, it was bison. Remember that Aldor (from aldor.org) doesn't 
compile with bison, you have to make sure that it finds byacc.

Ralf


From bill.page at newsynthesis.org  Thu Aug  4 09:33:39 2011
From: bill.page at newsynthesis.org (Bill Page)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:33:39 -0400
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
In-Reply-To: <4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>
References: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>
Message-ID: <CAC6x94QPdLPiQvbMZj5rDaFkO9FZOJGXycKGU6Jkc=rb6zrqbw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ralf, that was it. I did not recognize the symptoms.

 #  sudo apt-get install byacc flex

solved the problem.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Ralf Hemmecke <ralf at hemmecke.de> wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 03:10 AM, Bill Page wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
>> sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
>> Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
>> the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
>> memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
>> during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library. ?I
>> believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
>> starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
>> did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
>> was Debian) two years ago.
>
> I remember somebody else running into this problem. Me?
> Oh yes, it was bison. Remember that Aldor (from aldor.org) doesn't compile
> with bison, you have to make sure that it finds byacc.
>
> Ralf
>


From ralf at hemmecke.de  Mon Aug  1 16:06:32 2011
From: ralf at hemmecke.de (Ralf Hemmecke)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:06:32 +0200
Subject: [Aldor-l] Fwd: Free Aldor
Message-ID: <4E370748.6020304@hemmecke.de>

Dear Stephen,

May I ask you again to consider my mail from September 2009?

Thank you
Ralf

PS: The Aldor SVN repository is not working.
ping https://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca
ping: unknown host https://aquarium.aldor.csd.uwo.ca

On 09/24/2009 11:38 PM, Ralf HEMMECKE wrote:
> Dear Stephen, dear Mike

> as you might know, I have built some scripts in FriCAS (a fork of
> Axiom) (http://fricas.sourceforge.net/) in order to build libaxiom.al
> from scratch. Unfortunately, I can neither distribute libaxiom.al nor
> some necessary .as files under the same license as FriCAS (mBSD),
> since this code is only available under the Aldor Public License 2.0.
>
> I hereby kindly ask you to release the following files under a BSD
> license (same as for the Axiom code).
>
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axiom.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axextend.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axlit.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/stub.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/minimach.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/axllib/src/lang.as
>
> Furthermore, in order to distribute a precompiled libaxiom.al together
> with FriCAS, it would be helpful to also release
>
> $(ALDORROOT)/lib/libfoam.al(runtime.ao)
>
> under a BSD license. For 'runtime.ao', also releasing the sources
> under a BSD license would be good, but I explicitly ask for the
> release of the .ao format.
>
> Please help the FriCAS project and don't let Aldor die.
>
> Has meanwhile anything been done to release all of the Aldor
> compiler+library sources under a GPL-compatible license?
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Yours sincerely
> Ralf Hemmecke



From bill.page at newsynthesis.org  Wed Aug  3 21:10:57 2011
From: bill.page at newsynthesis.org (Bill Page)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:10:57 -0400
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
Message-ID: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library.  I
believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
was Debian) two years ago.

---

Also, has anyone successfully built Aldor from Pippijn van
Steenhoven's source at
http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/home/projects/lang/aldor ?  I tried to do
this but could not find sufficient documentation on the build process.
I asked Pippijn for more details but I haven't heard from him yet.
Pippijn are you here?



From ralf at hemmecke.de  Thu Aug  4 01:56:46 2011
From: ralf at hemmecke.de (Ralf Hemmecke)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:56:46 +0200
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
In-Reply-To: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>

On 08/04/2011 03:10 AM, Bill Page wrote:
> Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
> sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
> Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
> the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
> memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
> during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library.  I
> believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
> starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
> did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
> was Debian) two years ago.

I remember somebody else running into this problem. Me?
Oh yes, it was bison. Remember that Aldor (from aldor.org) doesn't 
compile with bison, you have to make sure that it finds byacc.

Ralf



From bill.page at newsynthesis.org  Thu Aug  4 09:33:39 2011
From: bill.page at newsynthesis.org (Bill Page)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:33:39 -0400
Subject: [Aldor-l] Building Aldor
In-Reply-To: <4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>
References: <CAC6x94Q8Ri9ctxE81ewa8Q73OKcLJCv8L=8Q1XcffRFT7fNGxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E3A349E.1030607@hemmecke.de>
Message-ID: <CAC6x94QPdLPiQvbMZj5rDaFkO9FZOJGXycKGU6Jkc=rb6zrqbw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ralf, that was it. I did not recognize the symptoms.

 #  sudo apt-get install byacc flex

solved the problem.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Ralf Hemmecke <ralf at hemmecke.de> wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 03:10 AM, Bill Page wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone recently successfully built Aldor from the aldor.org
>> sources on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit system? I haven't build
>> Aldor for a couple of years. When I tried it now the build gets past
>> the first stage of C compiles but seems to very quickly grab all of
>> memory and it starts intensive swapping within the first few seconds
>> during the first first call to Aldor to compile an algebra library. ?I
>> believe the I modified the Makefile.global file correctly before
>> starting the build. I do not recall any problems like this when I last
>> did this on the same system when it was running Ubuntu (or maybe it
>> was Debian) two years ago.
>
> I remember somebody else running into this problem. Me?
> Oh yes, it was bison. Remember that Aldor (from aldor.org) doesn't compile
> with bison, you have to make sure that it finds byacc.
>
> Ralf
>



